Talking About Gal 220 P1

Gal 2:20 Video Transcript by Fred Pruitt – Part One

(This is a transcript of a video I did in my home in Pensacola, Florida, August 24, 2009. I have left it mostly intact, but have edited a touch.)

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Well, good afternoon. Today I’m going to talk about Galatians 2:20, and I haven’t prepared anything this time, so, we’ll just see what the Lord has for us.

First of all, I want to give people the option to bail out at the beginning, if you want, because I’m going to tell you what I told a conference of men 2 or 3 years ago out in California. They had given some of us opportunities to give short talks, setting us a 7 minute limit. As it is when people talk about these things – one guy spoke 20 minutes, another 30, another 40*, and then it came my turn. *(I might have exaggerated those times a bit.)

Well, I felt like the leader of the conference was really kind of getting a little nervous, because he did have a main speaker and he had reserved all this time for the main speaker, so I thought, “I’ll just make this short.”

And this is what I said … but let me just preface this by saying that this was a conference of very accomplished professional men, primarily, men who are very intelligent, men who were very successful, and men who were very analytical, so, this is what I said:

Let’s just suppose, for the sake of argument, without any further analysis, without any ‘taking apart,’ without any qualification, that the following words are true, right now, in the present moment, for each of us, in our lives today. And those words are these: ‘I AM crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I … but Christ liveth in me, and the life I now live in the flesh, I live by the faith OF the Son of God, Who loved me, and gave Himself for me.’” And with that, I sat down. And those of you who know me, know that is the shortest speech I have ever given.

I’ll just let that rest in your mind just a moment because that really is the simplicity of the gospel, and you can just take it at face value, and believe it, and live on it. So I’m going to give you a couple of seconds to consider that, and for those who haven’t left after that, I will go into a further explanation of that.

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Alright. So we’ll talk a little bit about the mechanics of Galatians 2:20. I want to tell you that this is the central core truth of the New Testament, which makes it really the central core truth of the whole Bible.

The purpose of God in creation and in sending His Son to give His Life for us after our race had fallen through our father Adam, was not so that we could spend could spend 10 billion trillion gazillion years sitting in Heaven looking at Him telling Him how great He is. I hate to trample on a bunch of toes, that have that vision, but I’ve never thought a whole lot about that vision, and let me tell you why.

A lot about God can be known through our natural lives. Now let me ask you this – what parent, what father, what mother, unless he had a sick narcissistic psychology would want his or her children to sit around the house all day and look at Mom and Dad telling them how great they are? No, that’s not the purpose of procreation, that our children would continually worship us. What we want is for our children, theoretically, to take the provision, the education, the values, the things that we have given them, and then to take those out and develop their own lives on the basis of those things. And we want them to be successful in what they do. We want them to go out and live full and whole lives, and not only that, but for them to bear children and do the same with those children. So that we don’t want our kids to be sitting around the house saying, “O Dad, Mom, you’re great, you’re great, we love you, you’re so good, you’re so good!”

I’d say, “Get out of here, go do something, do something with your life. That’s how you show me I’m great! That’s how you show me that I’ve done a good job, is you go out and do something yourself.”

That’s what God wants of us. He has this Love-drive, and the Love-drive seeks to reproduce. That’s the first thing He said, to the children of men, after creation, He says, “Be fruitful and multiply.” He wants a RACE of people, and a race of people that show forth His Life. And His Life is Love. His Life is Love toward others – love that goes out, love whose death is to meet the need of the other. To provide for, and if necessary, die for that other that the other might live. So when Christ is reproduced in us, when Christ becomes alive in us, then that’s the Life that we live. We’re not interested in getting disciples to ourselves so they can all sit around and marvel at our wisdom and marvel at our holiness and our beauty. No, we want the people that God gives to us – we want them to grow up and become whole persons themselves.

You know, Paul said to Timothy, “What I have given to you, you teach to other men who will also commit it to others.” And so this Life is a continual outflow. It says in Hebrews that Christ is the outraying of the Divine. Well see, that’s the whole purpose of this Life, is that Christ would be formed in us, and then through that formation of Christ in us, we would reproduce Christ in others. And then they in turn would reproduce Christ in others.

And so that you have, eventually, God’s plan I believe is this. It’s that you have a whole vast family of Sons, and that includes daughters as well, who by the Life of the Son, THE Son, in them, go out and continually reproduce Life. That’s what love is. Love reproduces itself. Love doesn’t draw in, sucking in, wanting things for its own benefit. Love goes the whole length – it dies that someone else might live! In Revelation, in the center of the Throne of the Throne of God, in the center of power, in the center of the Godhead, it says there’s a Lamb slain from the foundations of the earth. So that before there was a “sinner who sinned,” there was a Lamb slain to cover the sin. And it’s not just [about] -“sinners who sin” – it’s the Principle, the Principle of Love – [which is] that the Son continually gives His Life, that Light may come forth.

The sun in the sky is an example of this. The sun – the light and the heat from the sun, comes scientifically by hydrogen fusion, as far as I understand it – I’m no scientist. It is in a sense a “death” of certain kinds of atomic particles, that other kinds of atomic energy might come forth, which results in [the] tremendous heat and tremendous light of the sun. So that we feel it and see it and it gives life to our planet 93 million miles away. That’s some heat, and that’s some light! The light is actually what generates the heat on this planet, through friction. And all of that is an example of the love of God, how God is an outgoing force, an outgoing life, to reproduce Himself.

Now, the human race fell. We all know about Adam and Eve. They partook of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil in the Garden. That is a whole other subject and perhaps we’ll talk on that one day. But the result of that [Fall] is that the entire human race became infilled, if you will, by the god of wrath, and became vessels of wrath.

God isn’t displeased with us just because we’re going out and doing bad things. What has happened to us is that we have been invaded. We have the wrong master. We have the wrong king who rules us, when we’re part of that fallen race. Through Adam, death came to all men. That is because Adam and Eve, when they took a piece of fruit, it wasn’t just a piece of fruit! It was the wrong god IN the piece of fruit, who is the god of, “I’ll be for myself, I’ll be for me!”

And so when they ingested, when they took it within themselves, that’s an example of the invasion that happened, a parable. They took it inside them. And when they took that fruit inside them, the snake was in the fruit. It’s like a worm in an apple, they swallowed the apple, but they also swallowed the worm that was in the apple. And then he became intertwined with them and they lost their consciousness – it was an unconscious consciousness that they had, because they had not yet come to a full consciousness of who they were – but they were walking around in the light of God. They had no idea of anything except provision and light and beauty and joy. They had no idea of anything negative. They didn’t know heat or cold. They didn’t know sorrow. And they didn’t [really] know joy either, really, because if you don’t know sorrow, you can’t know joy.

So there had to come some kind of experience where mankind, to be the Sons that we are, to be conscious Sons, who are conscious of Who we are and why we are, and what we’re about. There has to be this educational process where we understand the difference between joy and sorrow, we understand the difference between life and death. So, the only way we can actually know that, is to in some measure experience it ourselves. It’s like seeing a picture of the Grand Canyon, and going there. NO comparison! If you’ve been there you know what I mean. And if you haven’t been there you don’t.

I’ve been to both the Grand Canyon and Niagara Falls, and I’ve heard people say, “Niagara Falls is a lot like the Grand Canyon.” Niagara Falls doesn’t hold a candle to the Grand Canyon! (In my opinion, I guess other people would see differently.) Because it is such a vast thing, it cannot be captured on camera. It can’t be captured on TV; it can’t be captured in a motion picture film. You must see it yourself.

Well, this Life of God is the same way. It’s not something we just know through a book. Or from being taught in Sunday School or from hearing sermons. It’s something we must live, something we must experience. We must become one with Truth to know Truth. Truth must be intertwined with you, so that you start being who you really are. And that’s the whole purpose of this Life of God, and the redemption that Jesus Christ has accomplished for us.

Well now, getting back to what I said – the whole human race was captured, and somebody had to come along, and deliver the human race from that capture, and reconnect us to the true source of Life.

The main result of eating of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil – the devil told them that “if you’ll eat this, you’ll become wise as gods, you’ll become like God, knowing Good and Evil.”

Well now, what is a god? A god is a self-sufficient being. A god is somebody who can do it. A god is somebody who is independent, alone, needing nothing from anyone. In fact, he kind of deserves the praise and adoration of everyone else. That’s what this kind of god does. And so, what happened in the Fall, was that every human being that came after that was a little independent godlet, in their own thinking, in their own consciousness. Now people didn’t necessarily think of themselves as gods, but that’s really what happened. Because a mentality arose of aloneness, a mentality arose of independence, in which we see ourselves as just a unitary self, not hooked up with any other self.

Union, is from the beginning – and God breathed into Adam His own breath, and Adam became a living soul, it said. And so Adam began to be alive and be a person when the breath – and the breath of God is the Spirit of God – entered into him. Adam’s life from the beginning was a union life. He wasn’t just created a solitary being on the earth, independent and alone, separate from God up here, and Adam and Eve alone down here trying to run around in the Garden and be like God Who is over there, up there, somewhere where they were not.

That only occurred in the Fall, because Adam and Eve suddenly became alone and they suddenly became scared and they suddenly realized their own nakedness, which is more than they just looked down and realized they didn’t have any clothes on, there’s a lot more involved with that. The first thing they knew was separation. They hid. They were afraid; they were guilty, and in that guilt and fear is separation they thought – apparently they didn’t really know – that before they had been united with God, because it had been an unconscious thing. His Life had been the inner Life that they were. Well, in partaking of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, which is that they could be that [the Life] themselves, which is what Lucifer had done in the eternals. In the eternities he had said – and you can see this in Isaiah chapter 14 – he said, I will be like the Most High, I will ascend above the stars. It said in Ezekiel, chapter 28, that he saw his own beauty, and he worshipped his beauty. He thought, “Man I am great! Look at this beauty that I have, the jewels, these encrustments …. ”

Well, all that came from God! It’s kind of like if the moon were a sentient being, the moon had a consciousness of its own, and the moon decided one day it didn’t need the sun, because, “Look at this light I’ve got, that I’m shining on the earth all the time! This is glorious light that I have.” And if it were possible to cut itself off from the sun, and what would happen? The moon has no light of its own. The moon is a dark mass. And what we see on the earth is the sun’s light shining on the moon, and then we see the moon!

And that is another example of Who God is. God is Light, and what He does when He shines on those things, is that He manifests, THOSE things. I don’t look up at the sky and say, “Oh look, the sun’s light united with the moon.” I’ll just say, “Oh look, the moon!” And we even call it the moon’s light – we call it moonlight in the night time.

That’s because that union happens. And the union makes us forget that it is a union. Like with a lamp – we say, “turn on the light.” Well, actually, that’s a union. It’s electricity, and the objects the electricity flows through that creates the light. But we just say, “Turn on the light.” And we look at the moon and we say, “Look at the moon,” but we’re really seeing seeing the sun and the moon in a union, the light of the sun, and the moon, in a union.

Well, that’s our life! Our life was supposed to have been from the beginning, a union of God and us, but it manifests us! You see? It’s not just that we’re manifesting God – again, going back to what I originally said – God’s plan isn’t for us all to sit around the living room and tell Him how great He is through all eternity. His plan was to shine on “us,” and bring forth – US! Parents want their kids to be successful; parents want their kids to go out into the world and reproduce, and build lives. Well, that’s what God wants of us! He wants us to manifest Him, through being ourselves. That’s what union is, where the sun shines on the moon and brings forth the moon.

But Satan thought, “Oh, I’m the moon, I’ve got my own light, and I’ll just be my own light and to heck with God. I don’t need Him!” Well, of course we know, that his light became darkness. And since his choice was an eternal choice, because he is an eternal being living only in eternity, therefore it’s irrevocable.

Well, our choice, Adam’s and Eve’s choice, was made in a temporal way, in a temporal setting, and so their choice can be reversed – up to a point. So, what happened in the whole human race when they fell was this what’s called “the old man,” that the New Testament calls the “old man,” was created, who thinks he’s “somebody,” and everybody starts living out of the force of might, after getting for themselves. It’s what we call “self-for-self,” “I’m for me and to heck with you!” God is, “I’m for you and to hell with me!” Think about that – that’s what Jesus did.

And then also this consciousness arose in the human race, that is also the result of that, which is what we call, “independent self.” It is a self which thinks, or believes or acts, as if it is independent of God. It is not; it never is.

Paul said to the Athenians who were idol worshippers, philosophers, everything but Christ, much like our world today, and he said, “In Him you live and move and have your being.” Now that doesn’t just apply to people who have been “born again,” or “accepted Christ,” that’s everybody, that’s the whole race! In fact, that’s the whole universe – [it] has its movement and being in God – where else could it? He IS the source of all existence! Everything has its source in Him.

Now because beings are able to choose for themselves what they will be, some turn that Life in them around to where they cannot perceive God, because they are in darkness. It’s like their back is turned. That’s what Satan did; he opened up that realm, the “father of lies,” a “murderer from the beginning.” He was the source and originator of all that. But, to just reiterate this last point, this point again, independent self, or the idea that I’m a “little god,” maybe not in those words, but “I’m for me,” look out for ol’ number one. That isn’t just something recent, in the past 30-40 years. That’s been the human race since Adam and Eve. “Look out for ol’ number one!”

And so, it’s pretty easy to see the development of human history, where force of arms, gaining mastery over others, has been the premier occupation of the human race – the strong to oppress the weak, the mighty, the noble, the kings of the earth, get together all this power, so that they can have people serve them. That’s the opposite of Who God is.

So there’s a “god of this world” running things. And it says, in 1 John, that the whole world lies in the lap of the wicked one. I don’t want to make too big a deal of this, the fact that he runs this world, because over and above Him is the Father, Who is above all, through all and in all. And even with the devil running this world, the Father is above that, and running everything, even the whole universe. And it says in Ephesians 1:11, that “He works all things after the counsel of His own will.” And so He lets all the beings Who make choices, make their choices, and have their consequences. But in all that, what He does, is that He works it all together for good to them who love God and to those who are called according to His purposes. So even evil, He works into His good plan.

It’s just like in Genesis 50:20, when Joseph’s brethren came to him, really scared that now that their father, Jacob, has died, that Joseph is really going to let them have it, for what they did to him, by throwing him into a pit and selling him into slavery in Egypt! And Joseph, who is also a representative or a type of Christ, forgives them, and not only that, he says, “What you did was evil, but God meant it for good.” So, they did evil, but God meant it, for good. And he said, “to save much people alive.” Isn’t that interesting? So that Joseph’s suffering eventually turned out to save the life of his family, and the entire race of Abraham. Joseph’s suffering actually caused Jacob and his brothers to come down and live in Egypt, and grow into the nation of Israel in 400 years, and leave 600,000 or maybe even a million strong, to walk across the desert to the land of Canaan, which is also another story.

What I’ve been trying to get to, in this, is an explanation of what Galatians 2:20 is about, and the first phrase that says, “I am crucified with Christ.”

End Part One

4 thoughts on “Talking About Gal 220 P1

  1. Thank you I hope-someday I can meet you and the Louisville reunion people , you sustain me, next to Jesus that is !!! Id love to see you on Facebook then i could tell my freinds to read you and Norman Grubb. blessings

    Barbara Sigurdson 1 Kings 19:23… and after the fire a still small voice.

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    • Thank you, Barbara. I am always encouraged hearing such things. I’m glad the Spirit is speaking to you, no matter by whom, but of course we are blessed to know His Word does edify as He gives it out by us! Bless you! Thank you for writing! Amen to “the still small voice.”

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